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Tom
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Post Number: 996
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was it a mistake, a test, or something worse? You be the judge.

http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-shuts-down-84000-websites-by-mistake-110216/

I got the information and link on http://survivalblog.com
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Splinter_cell
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scary Stuff.

I read survivalblog.com daily. There is a wealth of information on that site. I have been waiting for it to "accidentally" be shut down as well. JWR would not sit back and let it get swept under the rug though.
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Tom
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some people could not get through to survivalblog. It seemed to depend on some unknown factors. Rawles posted his url and asked people to write it down and keep it in their wallets. Apparently, entering the url never failed. I wonder if this is how folks do it in China.
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Ricart
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

While I do not watch Glen Beck often, I tuned in to his program a couple days ago. While I feel he is all "gloom and doom", things like these web sites getting shut down makes me think, Beck may be closer to the truth on this government than we think. Face it, somebody is getting rid of him on FOX and I would guess his show had more audience than some of them
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Tom
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've never seen Glen Beck because reading is a far more efficient way of getting information. Additionally, I generally dismiss wild charges unless ther is some concrete information underlying the charges.

But this incident goes beyond any conspiracy theory. It actually happened. It's as real as the corpses at the Waco church and the almost immediate leveling of that site which prevented any forensic investigation.

Waco was an obvious message from the Clintons that they could kill anyone if they wished to do so. This incident may be a more targeted message or it may be something else. It certainly tells me that the internet is very fragile, that the government can easily pull the plug.
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Lohman446
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't care if it was a mistake or not. This is a power the federal government should not have. Its todays technological equivilant to being able to prevent assembly or shut down the presses with a simple press of the button. The fact that they technologically can do it proves they have put in means the ability to do it and the THAT is a clear undermining of first amendment rights.

I understand "having the power" is slightly different. Because the government could theoretically prevent assembly or the presses through force. However this is not something that could be done so easily as to be done by mistake. Its not only the fact its possible, its the fact that it is so easily done it can be done by mistake.
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Westerly1965
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lohman I agree with you completely on that statement.

Ricart just so you know Glenn Beck is leaving Fox of his own volition. He has something cooking just hasn't said what yet. He has however said several times that it was his decision to leave not theirs. And hey lets face it we all know Glen if they were getting rid of him he would be talking about it!
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Louiethelump
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He is launching an internet TV show, and that may lead to an internet TV network.........

Not a bad idea if you think about it........

He did.

The liberal press makes it sound like he was fired. Not so, but if you only listen to the mainstream media, you will never know the whole story..............

louie
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Westerly1965
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right on Louie have been trying to figure that out and hadn't had any luck thanks for the info. Internet TV show good idea Internet Network is an even better idea. I noticed that the liberal media was working very hard to make it look like he got fired in fact that's why I got suspicious in the first place LOL. Found a write up on him about some other things he had in the oven but didn't actually say what the motivator was for him to leave. It did say however that it was his plan to leave not Fox's which makes more sense when you think about it. I mean whether you like the guy or not he had/has a huge following for his show. Fox would be foolish to get rid of him and wouldn't be if they could do anything to stop it...
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Heyjoe
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how did they miss this site with all the obama threads...ha
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Chopprs
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

.......Westerley, perhaps you are watching the wrong channels!
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Westerly1965
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chopprs I watch very little TV at all most of my info is free lance research on both sides of the fence. As I have said many times I am a centrist. I completely avoid Fox News CNN and MSNBC as I don't believe a word any of them say...
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Ricart
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

While Fox may not be telling Beck to go, the facts are that last year he had 2.9 million viewers. Jan of this year, he had 1.8 million. Advertisers , Proctor&Gamble, Coca Cola, and Wal-Mart had quit his show.
True, he is going into a deal with FOX to produce shows, very little of the particulars are know.
Beck says he has been thinking of something else for some time. Maybe it is a general agreement between parties, Maybe the real truth will never come out.
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Wildtim
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So is Falsely accusing a person or business of something in print Libel, or Slander?
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Tom
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's libel; slander is speech.
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Bud
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Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glenn Beck and Fox New have parted ways.

But why now?

After weeks of rumors, and stories, and very public jockeying, the news arrived today arguably somewhat sooner than expected -- Beck's contract with Fox doesn't end until the end of the year.

The phrasing of the announcement, an exercise in PR speak if there ever was one, suggests the decision was arrived at somewhat sooner than expected, and that the ramped up rhetoric in the last few weeks was in anticipation this might happen.

Here's what the announcement doesn't answer: When will Glenn Beck get off the air.

Here's what else it doesn't answer: Whose decision it was to jump.

On the surface, the tone of the announcement strikes as entirely friendly. There are many mentions made of Beck's strong ratings -- and make no mistake, they remain strong, stunningly so for a 5PM show. And Beck and Ailes are both quoted saying nice things about each other.

Also revealed is the news that Beck's company Mercury Radio and Fox will work together to produce a "variety of television projects for air on the FOX News Channel as well as content for other platforms including FOX News� digital properties."

This suggests, at least superficially, that Fox is aware of the influence Beck wields and is not eager to burn bridges.

As noted by the NYT a few weeks ago Beck has been introducing original programming on his Insider Website, so an extension of this onto FOX also makes sense for Beck.

Whether or not it happens may be another question.

One person who has worked with Ailes before told us that when Ailes says " I look forward to continuing to work with him" what he really means is "don't let the door hit you on the way out."

They also relayed to us the rumor (entirely unconfirmed) that it was Wendi Murdoch who was most uncomfortable with Beck and pressured husband Rupert to make a move.

But what is really going on? You don't leave a platform like Fox, nor lose a ratings powerhouse like Beck willy nilly.

There are no shortage of people leaping in to take credit and point the finger squarely at Beck.

Media Matters, who devotes the majority of their extensive anti-Fox coverage to all things Beck, immediately released a statement from founder saying that "The Only Surprise Is That It Took Fox News Months To Reach This Decision."

The Jewish Funds for Justice, the group that ran the ad in the Wall St. Journal signed by all rabbis that was then denounced by the Anti-Defamation League, thinks Beck got fired because "he has been rejected by Jews." In a word, no.

Beck and Fox are parting ways because Beck had too much power and Fox couldn't control him.

It's not exactly a secret that Beck was unhappy with many aspects of Fox's tightly controlled (and not always friendly) media machine and was eager to be free of it.

As I've noted numerous times, Beck employs his own PR firm outside of Fox's famous PR team. It is they, not Fox (who, in my experience, have rarely to never reached out on behalf of Beck, particularly after he began announcing things like his 100 Year Plan and really started gaining steam) who deal with Beck's many public relations.

Fox likes to wield absolute control over their stars. Glenn Beck, whose office is outside the Fox building, and whose many media holdings put him on track to become some sort of media mogul in his own right, has increasingly been outside of their control.

It's perhaps not a coincidence that Fox News' website has been noticeably stepping up its game ever since Beck's site The Blaze launched last year.

People are very focused on Beck's loss of advertisers and the crazier statements he's made (the one that pops up with most frequency is the time he called Obama a racist, even though that happened way back in July of 2009) as the impetus for this parting. And surely they were contributing factors.

But tune into Fox and Friends in the morning and you will quickly hear plenty of people say incredibly offensive things on Fox every single day -- the difference is that should Fox want to rein them in they are generally able to do so. Less so with Beck.

So to say this was a mutual decision is likely far more accurate.

For Beck it's almost a lateral move -- this is no Keith Olbermann we are talking about, Beck has an entire media empire waiting for him and will likely become his own case study in what a new media world might look like once stars become less dependent on traditional cable platforms.

For Fox it means they no longer have to answer for someone who doesn't like to answer to them.

What remains uncertain is when that move will take place. By all accounts the details of Beck's "transition" have yet to be hammered out and no one is quite certain when Beck will depart. Will he still be on in a week? Good question. One thing is for certain, Fox will not see ratings like that for a long time to come.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-beck-fox-news-fired-ratings-2011-4#ixzz1PjmRyHic
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Lohman446
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Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone else think that Beck's "influence" is overstated often and grandly?
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Heyjoe
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Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glenn Beck is a showman not a newsman or analyst. Like Jon Stewart he is way more entertainment than news. Its kinda like wrestling, some people just dont get that its not real.
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Bud
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Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think Heyjoe is right, Beck is a showman, and an entertainer.

I watch him as often as I can, and sometimes get peeved at what he says, and at times disagree with his views. I don't like it when he makes fun of people, and often acts stupid when he is with Bill O'Reilly.

The thing is though, I haven't heard ONE thing he has said that wasn't true or didn't come true!
He always shows videos of what he has said or predicted in the past.
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Scag13
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Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Fox News announced today that Glenn Beck will leave his show later this year. It's nothing personal. He just wants to spend more time with the voices in his head." –Jimmy Fallon
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Bud
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Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glen Beck has 9 more shows left to do.

Scag13, which one is the comedian, you or Jimmy Fallon?

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