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     Mndoug Message Board Member Username: Mndoug Post Number: 1602 Registered: 12-2010  |
No, I *know* what happened to the little gangsta-in-training... I mean, what happened to the STORY? It seems to have disappeared. Did the media get bored? Or did more texts and photos like the one below show up that don't support the idea that he was just a lil ol' Skittles-totin' angel? ***IMAGE REMOVED*** | ||
| Red14 Message Board Member Username: Red14 Post Number: 2064 Registered: 02-2009  |
When the facts came out that 'Z' was not a white racist chasing a helpless little boy with skittles it didn't meet the media's agenda. | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2569 Registered: 09-2009  |
The defence is getting it's act together. Then the trial starts. That is where it stands. I saw his mother and some of the Zs or Xs yesterday and she was saying how good of a boy he had always been on mother's day in the past and now he won't be able to do those things any more (or something like that) | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3301 Registered: 12-2010  |
Yea, he was SUCH a good boy that they shipped his butt out of Miami where he kept getting into trouble, to an area with a new set of unknowning victims. | ||
| Bud Message Board Member Username: Bud Post Number: 2240 Registered: 10-2009 |
By: Kristal Roberts SANFORD, Fla. - The FBI is considering a hate crime charge against George Zimmerman, according to Orlando station WFTV. Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder after he fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in February. If a jury finds him guilty, the charge carries a maximum penalty of life in prison. If the FBI and prosecutors can prove Zimmerman intentionally went after and shot Martin because he is African-American, the sentence could escalate to the death penalty. Zimmerman said he shot the teen in self defense, because Martin punched, kicked and knocked him to the ground. But there are new details on the evidence in the case against Zimmerman. According to the Orlando Sentinel, Zimmerman's attorney received a data download from prosecutors including more than 60 CDs, Zimmerman's phone records, dozens of witness statements and interviews, including those of 18 Sanford Police officers. There is also video from the 7-eleven store where Trayvon reportedly purchased Skittles and Arizona iced tea and from a clubhouse at Twin Lakes, the townhouse complex where the teen was killed. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7256 Registered: 09-2009  |
....next they will be arresting people that think he is guilty......for racial hatred! This is already the stupidest fiasco that I have ever seen, and assuredly to get worse! | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3307 Registered: 12-2010 |
This is an example of what happens when you get onto the President's hate list. Obama came out early, with no knowledge of the details of the case, and sided with the member of his race that happened to be the one shot in this case. Now the FBI is directed to pursue hate charges, and in case you folks are not aware, if Zimmerman is cleared by the State Court, he CAN be tried again for the same incident under FEDERAL law without violating double jeopardy. This was done with the officers in the Rodney King case when they were acquitted in California, and I believe two were sent to Federal prison on the new Federal charges. At the same time, the Attorney General is refusing to proceed against black defendants when the victims are white in certain cases. | ||
| Whitehorse Message Board Member Username: Whitehorse Post Number: 1310 Registered: 09-2011  |
Just thinking of some of the Communist Progressive manifestations Obama has given birth to in his first term and this happened. No wonder the Beach Boys don't like Obama.  | ||
| Mndoug Message Board Member Username: Mndoug Post Number: 1610 Registered: 12-2010 |
The whole idea of a "Hate Crime" is preposterous and Orwellian. It presumes that people can look into the accused's soul and know what he or she was thinking. And straight-out murder (e.g., revenge killing, robbery, even murder-for-hire) isn't "bad" enough... it's even WORSE if you murder someone because of how you FEEL about their race, gender, sexual preference, and so on. A ridiculous example of lefty thinking that has crept into our judicial system. P.S. I see that the image of little Trayvon flipping the bird was removed from my original posting. Wow. When did the board get so tight that you can't post an image already used throughout the media? I think that's going too far. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7261 Registered: 09-2009 |
Isn't that what you wanted Doug? You complained for not enough censorship and now you complain too much.... George Zimmerman's doctor's report is out. He was treated for two black eyes, a broken nose and cuts on the back of his head. Trayvon Martin on the other hand had multiple cuts on his knuckles....... | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2585 Registered: 09-2009 |
When there is censorship, it is for all. Even the for ones that wanted it. | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3317 Registered: 12-2010 |
It seems to work kind of the same as other complainers. When I worked at the PD, there were "neighborhoods" that constantly complained about speeders on their streets. So, the traffic unit would be assigned to ticket the speeders in that residential neighborhood. Time after time it was found that the worst speeders in the neighborhoods were the ones doing the complaining. When they got ticketed, they tended to say things like "I didn't mean ME, I LIVE HERE! I meant those other people..." Or words to that effect...... When you demand others be censored, beware! You may find that you get what you ask for and find it bites you on the nose. I find it EXTREMELY amusing............ | ||
| Heyjoe Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe Post Number: 3048 Registered: 02-2009  |
all of the whiners have gotten very quiet the last week or so. its as quiet as a church in here. seems to me that shows who the disruptors really were all along. | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2589 Registered: 09-2009 |
They didn't want to be part of the forum. They just didn't want us to have any fun. They stopped the fun now they are just setting there. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7265 Registered: 09-2009 |
......a playin' wid derr puddin'!  | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3325 Registered: 12-2010 |
I keep waiting for the brilliant insight we were promised if "ONLY WE HAD A MODERATOR!" We were promised HOPE and CHANGE if we had a moderator! Now we have one, and mostly we got quiet and boredom!!! Come on whiners! Post some brilliant examples of your Heavenly knowledge that Chopprs was suppressing!!! Where is the enlightenment? oh yea, I guess a couple of them could not comply with the rules they demanded be put on everyone and got bumped........... huh! Imagine that!  | ||
| Heyjoe Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe Post Number: 3055 Registered: 02-2009 |
hoisted on their own petard.......well i do declare | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7275 Registered: 09-2009 |
.....I am waiting as well. An answer, any answer would we a welcome debate at best....or worst! In any case it is interesting how quiet the board has become since my balls have been put in the vice so to speak. Is there no more comment? Is there no longer any debate? ...no longer any rants or outcries for somone with far more wisdom to come down from the skies and make our little forum a more wonderful, warm and fuzzy place to be? Assuredly all of the problems were caused by ......little ole me!  I am after all such a meanie and a crass old fart! | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2591 Registered: 09-2009 |
Well, the ••• holes can't say that •••• ol Chooprs ran the pricks off with his bad ••• mouth. They just bullied themselves off the board. Wasn't The Chop this time. (Pricks ain't a cuss word) Don't you just love the little red censorship tracks. Like the little red censor rat just walked through my thought. | ||
| Heyjoe Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe Post Number: 3060 Registered: 02-2009 |
where is the swell of popular support for the overalled crusader? not one peep from anyone after all he has done for the downtrodden, persecuted, bullied posters on the board. second case of narcisstic personality disorder diagnosed here this week. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7282 Registered: 09-2009 |
When Admin locks you out it is not just your user ID but your ip address so you can not come in....unless, well I could! | ||
| Mndoug Message Board Member Username: Mndoug Post Number: 1618 Registered: 12-2010 |
HEY now... (fans of "Gary Shandling's Show" will remember that phrase)... I believe I have been unjustly accused of being one of "the whiners" who brought this about: (Chopprs: "Isn't that what you wanted Doug? You complained for not enough censorship and now you complain too much.... ") Not true. If anything, I wished for more SELF-censorship, not only to keep the board pleasant, but to avoid exactly what has happened. I'm pretty sure we can continue debating - only in a PG manner. At least it's not being moderated in a PC way, like many other boards are. We can still say what we think, within the limits of civility. | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 2201 Registered: 10-2010 |
"WFTV.com reports that a medical examiner found two injuries on Martin’s body: the fatal gunshot wound to the chest and broken skin on his knuckles. The autopsy results surface as court records indicate that Zimmerman had a pair of black eyes, a fractured nose and two cuts to the back of his head after the fatal shooting on Feb. 26." Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/16/autopsy-results-reportedly-indicate-trayvon-martin-suffered-injuries-to/?cmpid=prn_aol&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D161719#ixzz1v9HwBD81 What happened is the evidence is now pointing to the original decisions to not put Zimmerman on trial as being one based on the law as it is written and the facts. This politically motivated trial (complete with a special prosecutor appointed by the government and even President Obama) points more and more to malicious prosecution by those involved. I am not saying Zimmerman did not make mistakes nor am I arguing that he is absolved of all moral issues in regards to this. What I am saying is that the evidence seems to corroborate very early accounts of what happened before Al Sharpton got involved. | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2596 Registered: 09-2009 |
Doug gets his way. We can argue but in only a PG manner. That is what he wanted to start with. He wins. Not with me. I won't debate. I won't comment. I won't answer. Not with him. | ||
| Cfsharry Message Board Member Username: Cfsharry Post Number: 23 Registered: 09-2011 |
Lohman, What I have read is that the medical examiner found a laceration on Trayvon's left ring finger below the knucle. Said laceration was less than 1/4" long. The report also states Trayvon was shot from intermediate range, whatever that means. This raises two questions. If Trayvon was indeed giving Zimmerman a real beatdown, would he not have more cuts and abrasions on his fists and knuckles? If Zimmerman was being beaten when he drew and fired his weapon, wouldn't the medical examiner's report have indicated Trayvon was shot at close range? As to Zimmerman's doctor reporting injuries examined the next day I question why, if he had been so severely beaten the night before, he had not been taken to a hospital for examination for more serious, but not so obvious, injuries such as concussion. Could Zimmerman, after the fact and upon realizing what he had truely done, not have inflicted his wounds upon himself in order to give himself a defense? A final question, and one calling for a modicum of intellectual honesty, if Trayvon were a white kid named Terry would some of us be trying so hard to make him the aggressor? | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 2202 Registered: 10-2010 |
Truth be told, if you read the stories section and my posting there, I have argued that Zimmerman shares his share of responsibility for what transpired (without knowing what transpired) even if it went as he said it did. That being said there is a difference in making an error of judgement (or several) and a criminal act. | ||
| Cfsharry Message Board Member Username: Cfsharry Post Number: 24 Registered: 09-2011 |
Lohman, I have read your posts re. this subject and realize you have stated Zimmerman shares responsibility. Anyone who reads your posts regularly realizes you value intellectual honesty. That is not the issue However. I was not there that night. I will never know, with certainty, what actually happened. None of us will. The issue remains; why are many so quick to judge Trayvon and to find him guilty and would they do so if he were a white kid named Terry? | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7284 Registered: 09-2009 |
....so I am no longer the bad guy an Doug is? | ||
| Shadowofleaves Message Board Member Username: Shadowofleaves Post Number: 52 Registered: 04-2012 |
NBC issues apology for edited Zimmerman 911 call Published April 03, 2012 FoxNews.com NBC News issued an apology Tuesday for the way it handled the broadcasting of the 911 conversation between George Zimmerman and a police dispatcher in the Trayvon Martin case. Following reports that NBC aired audio of the call was edited in a way that implied Zimmerman was racist, the network launched an internal investigation. "During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made in the production process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to our viewers," the network said in a statement cited by The Washington Post. Zimmerman, a volunteer neighborhood watch leader, admits shooting and killing Martin one night in February, but he has said the shooting was in self-defense and justified under the state's "Stand Your Ground" law. He also said Martin attacked him, but that and other details of the case remain in question, as authorities continue to investigate whether to charge Zimmerman. NBC's "Today" show ran the edited audio of Zimmerman's phone call to a police dispatcher, seeming to show Zimmerman saying, "This guy looks like he's up to no good … he looks black." A transcript of the complete 911 call shows that Zimmerman said, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about." The 911 officer responded saying, "OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?" "He looks black," Zimmerman said. The abridged conversation between Zimmerman and the dispatcher that NBC ran on March 27 has been blasted by media watchdog groups as misleading. Critics have said the edited version was made to suggest that Zimmerman targeted Martin because he was black -- an accusation by many that is still under investigation. The Associated Press contributed to this report. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/nbc-issues-apology-edited-zimmerman-11-call/#ixzz1vAMqvXIS | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3336 Registered: 12-2010 |
Cfsharry: this is an interesting take on the situation: "why are many so quick to judge Trayvon and to find him guilty and would they do so if he were a white kid named Terry?" When most of the country has already tried, convicted, and sentenced to DEATH Mr. Zimmerman, and there is a cash bounty on him DEAD or ALIVE and he has had to go into hiding to keep from being killed. It makes me wonder what planet are YOU on that you think what the quote above says, when the exact OPPOSITE is the actual situation? It is Zimmerman who has been quickly judged, and found guilty by the press, the president of the USA, newspapers, and now it seems YOU. More and more evidence is surfacing that seems to show Zimmerman DID act is self defense, and yet you find prejudice against Martin? AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Cfsharry Message Board Member Username: Cfsharry Post Number: 25 Registered: 09-2011 |
Louie, I believe I have asked a fair and realistic question, one that even now you are not addressing. I do not know if Trayvon was the aggressor or if he was, instead, reacting to aggression, either real or perceived. As I stated earlier, I do not know what actually happened that night. None of us do. With that being said, however, if you go back and reread all of the posts on this subject, I believe you will find, with one or two exeptions, the prevailing sentiment expressed doubts about Trayvon and support for Zimmerman from the getgo. Louie, I respect your knowledge re. firearms and more so your career in law enforcement. My dad was a cop all his life and I have a fair idea what the job brings your way and how it affects your life and world view. I also know that to do the job well and to insure that justice prevails, honesty is required. If you can tell me that your initial reaction to this story would have been the same if the dead kid was white I will take your word for it and end of story | ||
| Bud Message Board Member Username: Bud Post Number: 2249 Registered: 10-2009 |
If a picture tells a thousand words, please tell me which one LOOKS guilty, the one giving the bird with both hands or Zimmerman with a busted head? Which one has the worst police record, and been suspended from school? Which one was yelling for help according to the witness? Which one called the police? I know you can't convect a person on any of this, but you can't convect Zimmerman on the unknown either> | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 2203 Registered: 10-2010 |
You know if I thought Zimmerman could have a fair trial I would be all for it. However this is the problem I have with what has transpired: Those closest to the scene and with knowledge of the situation decided that conviction of Zimmerman in a court of law (beyond a reasonable doubt) was not a reasonable goal. Very few trials ever result in a verdict of "innocent" (I think you can actually request a directed verdict of such). Most end with a verdict of "guilty" (which should be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt) or "not guilty". You brought up a good point - noone can know what happened that night. However, there is no indication of any evidence that Zimmerman acted outside the confines of the law in regards to murder, specifically in regards to the stand your ground laws. We have a he said / silence issue. Might Mr. Martin have a different acount of the events as they transpired? Sure he likely would. Most events have two sides to the story and most of the time neither of them is fully accurate. The point is outside of evidence that events transpired differantly than Mr. Zimmerman indicates they did it would be hard to get a conviction and likely a waste of resources. When evidence corrabarates Mr. Zimmerman's account it becomes even less likely. Prosecuting someone, when there is no reasonable chance of conviction, is malicious prosecution. Jury nullification style arguments (where one hopes the jury ignores the law and acts differently) are supposed to be reserved for the defense not used by the prosecution As to your question of the events and what we would have thought had Mr. Martin been white. I don't think it alters what I think of the event. However I do think it alters if we would be talking about it. I assure you there have been cases of self defense (and probably cases that are more legally questionable) since this incident. The only difference color has made in this has been the attention it has gotten. The attention by the black community is one thing. The fabricating of the story by NBC is irresponsible and slanderous. However, this attention by our President, is another. The naming of a special prosecutor by the governor reeks of politically motivated prosecution - which would be malicous prosecution. | ||
| Therevjay Message Board Member Username: Therevjay Post Number: 547 Registered: 02-2009 |
Why is every picture I've ever seen of poor little Trayvon in the National media one that was taken when he was 12 or 13? Why don't they want anyone to see what the trashbag actualy looked like? | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3338 Registered: 12-2010 |
Cfsharry: Now you suggest I am a racist. "If you can tell me that your initial reaction to this story would have been the same if the dead kid was white I will take your word for it and end of story" 1) you don't know my initial reaction to the story so you assume an awful lot of someone you don't know and never met. 2) Your prejudice is showing. You have pre-judged me to be a racist and to having an opinion (and you don't even know what my opinion is) based on the race of the participants, NEITHER of which is white! I would have MORE reason to be biased against the Hispanic than I would Martin, but since you are just speaking from YOUR prejudice as you don't know mine, you just ASSUME. You see, if I was going to make a racially based judgement, Zimmerman being the same race and with the same heritage as the woman currently serving 15 years in State Prison for killing my grandson would certainly override anything else. But of course you don't know that. You just decided that since your old man was a cop and you probably heard him say things from a racist aspect, that all long time police officer are like your father. (an example of YOUR stereotyping) For your information, the news of this incident hit local news at least 24 hours before it was picked up nationally, and as I live only about 50 miles from where it happened probably heard about it before you did. My first reaction to my wife when we both heard about it for the first time, was "the guy that shot that kid is going to prison". Second comment was "what in the world is he thinking by getting out of the vehicle at all under those circumstances?" THEN as the FACTS came out, (as opposed to the prejudiced and altered audio of the phone call that was played) it started to look like maybe the victim (the dead kid in this case) may have not been so innocent. Now as more evidence comes out, and the national news services are confirmed to have LIED about the case in order to make it look like a racial incident, it looks more and more like Martin was the aggressor at the time he was shot. If you are looking for a racist, you had best go look in the mirror, as that is where the denial of facts is taking place. I don't know or care what race you are, all races are capable of being racist and making assumptions based on their own internal prejudice instead of the facts of the incident. And, as far as what YOU believe about what I think; I really don't give a poop. You are just another little man running around with your own little prejudices and resentment toward your father the cop. Get some therapy. Louie | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7287 Registered: 09-2009 |
Cfsharry....did you know that Zimmerman is part black?....his best friend is black and he was partners in a business with a black man? | ||
| Randy Message Board Member Username: Randy Post Number: 256 Registered: 02-2009 |
From most of the media coverage, it is obvious that Zimmerman had planned to murder someone before he left home. Once he ran Martin down, Zimmerman beat Martin wildly and severely in the fists with his face and then shot him. They don't understand why it's so hard for us to see that. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7288 Registered: 09-2009 |
Ya know, one would think that is funny but the stupid zhit that I see on TV lately it would not surprise me if that were actually a stated and attempted explanation......and I am not kidding. This whole kook show since Obama has become President is frigging crazy! | ||
| Cfsharry Message Board Member Username: Cfsharry Post Number: 26 Registered: 09-2011 |
Louie, I am truely sorry to hear about your grandson. His death obviously weighs heavily upon you. You are a master when it comes to avoiding the issue at hand. I find it interesting that you are unable to have a calm, rational and respectful conversation and that you so easily and without warrant, attack my father, a man you did not know and whose self control under duress you might have learned from. It is small of you and quite pitiful, but it is nothing less than I have come to expect. Have a good evening. | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3339 Registered: 12-2010 |
That coming from a condescending little pip who suggested that due to my choice of careers I was a racist. Now you want to make yourself out the victim. You will be a fine Democrat. The issue at hand is you presumed that I had taken a racist position and HOW DARE YOU accuse me of racism when you know NOTHING about me? I answered you in a calm and rational way and do not expect respect when your first words to me are to accuse me of being a racist. Talk about small of someone!!!! You have a lot of nerve. You start with me and then don't like the response. Go complain to the board monitor that you called me a racist and I did not like it and was mean to you. Or, BE A MAN and apologize for your original accusation and we will start over. Or slink off to your corner convinced that anyone that does not agree with little prince Harry is a racist. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7289 Registered: 09-2009 |
.......ooooh-boooy, I get to get my popcorn out.  | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2598 Registered: 09-2009 |
"why are many so quick to judge Trayvon and to find him guilty and would they do so if he were a white kid named Terry?" Terry would been at home in bed at that time of the morning........ | ||
| Heyjoe Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe Post Number: 3067 Registered: 02-2009 |
cfshary; "What I have read is that the medical examiner found a laceration on Trayvon's left ring finger below the knucle. Said laceration was less than 1/4" long. The report also states Trayvon was shot from intermediate range, whatever that means. This raises two questions. If Trayvon was indeed giving Zimmerman a real beatdown, would he not have more cuts and abrasions on his fists and knuckles? If Zimmerman was being beaten when he drew and fired his weapon, wouldn't the medical examiner's report have indicated Trayvon was shot at close range? " i heard yesterday that the autopsy stated that Trayvon Martin was shot within a range of 1-18 inches. a tragedy all the way around for everyone involved. | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2601 Registered: 09-2009 |
Here is some better coverage of the case. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/16/what-zimmerman-martin-medical-reports-tell-us-and-media-didnt/ | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7292 Registered: 09-2009 |
Ya see, now this fiasco needs to be emblazoned all over the media so the people of the US can see what a ridiculous angle that the Left has on literally EVERYTHING!!! The Autopsy report also shows THC in Martins blood. So he was smoking pot just before the altercation! That Prosecutor needs to be fired immediately! | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2603 Registered: 09-2009 |
I'm with you Chopprs. It's popcorn time. Louie is going to be accused of being a bully again.  | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3341 Registered: 12-2010 |
So, out of the blue, a guy pokes you in the nose, and you poke him back, and you become the bully? | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7297 Registered: 09-2009 |
.......YES!!!  | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3342 Registered: 12-2010 |
It is indeed a new world................ | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2606 Registered: 09-2009 |
A brave new world unfolds before us. One in which we must tread lightly. | ||
| Bud Message Board Member Username: Bud Post Number: 2252 Registered: 10-2009 |
I was never very good at turning the other cheek. | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3345 Registered: 12-2010 |
I am more of the benevolent victor myself. Willing to forgive. Battle is battle. When the war is won, peace can be made and I will buy nicely made compact cars and trucks, cameras, and electronics from the loser.  | ||
| Cfsharry Message Board Member Username: Cfsharry Post Number: 27 Registered: 09-2011 |
Heyjoe, Yes, I read that in another publication after my origional post to Lohman. Two different medical examiners, two different conclusions. Zimmerman's attorney will be most appreciative. Yes , I agree, this is a tragedy for all involved. | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2609 Registered: 09-2009 |
We are ALL involved. This is going to have a BIG impact on "Stand Your Ground" laws through out the Country. All my electronics come from China and we haven't been at war with them, YET. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7302 Registered: 09-2009 |
We will never be at war with China. It would destroy the Globe and everyone knows that. We are and always will be hateful friends..... Kind of like the obnoxious son of the boss. You just have to pretend you like him. | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2613 Registered: 09-2009 |
They wouldn’t have to go to war with us to get this Country. All they have to do is repossess the USofA. |
