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Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 258 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 06:00 pm: |
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I had to leave home this afternoon for business out of town. After about a mile I turned around because my wife's phone wasn't being answered. On the way out I met two young men on bikes, raining and dark, all their gear was black. On the way back in, 2 units of Center Point FD went screaming in toward the direction the cyclists would have been. The units had blocked the road so I couldnt see what had happened, had to detour. The scene was on Grayson Valley Drive in the middle of Grayson Valley Country Club. Might not have envolved the cyclists. Will find out and post more when I can get home and find out. I would never have ridden a bike on this busy Highway, and NEVER WEAR BLACK WHILE CYCLING. PD Jurisdiction is Jefferson County Alabama and nearest PD is Trussville Alabama. |
   
Louiethelump
Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump
Post Number: 2393 Registered: 12-2010

| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 06:51 pm: |
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Probably a Mormon hater ran down a couple of missionaries............... Happens......... I hope it is not them. |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 259 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 10:06 pm: |
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I am back at home now. I don't know how to find out, at this time of night, what the call was today, but I will try. I know one young fireman in a FD nearby. He's on his honeymoon, married Thursday. I will text him. Would any of you think, from the description I gave, that the young men were indeed missionaries? My guess is yes. Would any of you in the Church agree that black is a bad color for cycling in the rain on a busy highway? And, is there something you should do about it? |
   
Pogo
Message Board Member Username: Pogo
Post Number: 131 Registered: 11-2011

| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 10:52 pm: |
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@Bama22. Say WHAT? S'cuse me while I clean out my ears... say again? |
   
Chopprs
Message Board Member Username: Chopprs
Post Number: 5802 Registered: 09-2009

| | Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 01:06 am: |
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How does one equate two men on bicycles to be missionaries? |
   
Uncle_lee
Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee
Post Number: 1959 Registered: 09-2009

| | Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 05:55 am: |
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Mormons, we even get them around here. All of that I have ever talked to were nice kids. Well mannered & serious. |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 260 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 08:19 am: |
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Pogo, I don't see the the correlation between clean ears and reading comprehension. Put down that bong and Playstation. Thanks Lee. Was trying not to name them outright. Figured those who could help these young men would know who I was writing about. They are usuall seen in small towns or suburbs. In the Summer, white shirts and ties make them more visible. Add the black jacket and rain storm: invisible. Will call the local temple this morning and ask about them. |
   
Pogo
Message Board Member Username: Pogo
Post Number: 132 Registered: 11-2011

| | Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 08:59 am: |
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How touching... |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 261 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 09:44 am: |
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(this thread not for morons. It's about a safety concern I have. If you're not concerned, why not read something else?) I called 4 local temples. Finally got the number of the man in charge of missionaries. He can be reached Monday. FD Captain I spoke with was courteous, but didn't know and couldn't find out due to privacy rules. I've ridden thousands of miles on bicycles. My first priority: TO BE SEEN. Some strobes and reflective vests would help. Second, to know what roads not to ride. I won't post any more about this till after the call tomorrow. Then call Salt lake City I guess. Apologies to those who don't care. |
   
Heyjoe
Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe
Post Number: 2293 Registered: 02-2009

| | Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 09:53 am: |
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in the late 80's early 90's during the height of the crack wars we would see Mormon missionaries walking around central Harlem. there were bullets flying everwhere in those days. we would talk to them, very polite, very neatly dressed, very out of place there. we would tell them which blocks or buildings to stay away from that just werent safe at all. i guess they may have taken the advice because none were ever shot while i was there anyway. |
   
Louiethelump
Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump
Post Number: 2401 Registered: 12-2010

| | Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 11:18 am: |
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Bama: I am interested and would like to know what you find out. Missionaries DO have a "look" if you know what you are looking at, and you probably nailed it. They should get some reflective vests for night riding, and are supposed to have lights on their bikes. Nice young men doing their duty for their faith. I hate to see them hurt, and try to help them any time I see them. They have a difficult life. |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 269 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 08:20 am: |
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I just spoke with Sister Dunbar (205 979-0686) at the Mission President's office in Hoover, AL. She assured me that none of their missionaries were envolved in any accident here last Saturday. She said she would talk to the young men who were seen over here, and promised to phone or email me as to how the Church could improve these safety issues. |
   
Louiethelump
Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump
Post Number: 2409 Registered: 12-2010

| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 09:01 am: |
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Thanks for the update Bama. I do appreciate it. When my son-in-law was here in FL as a missionary in 1971, (he is from Idaho and met my sister here on his mission) he and his companion were constantly pelted with garbage and trash and bottles from passing cars as they rode their bikes about their duties............ thanks for helping the missionaries when you can.... Louie |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 274 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 10:08 am: |
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Glad to share, Louie. Every bit of roadside trash you see comes out of car windows. Bikes are vehicles too. Cyclist's lives are in the hands of motorists. Too many idiots driving. I hope people will think more about sharing the road with cyclists and pass them with care. How much time would be lost by everyone slowing down for a few seconds? |
   
Coinchop
Message Board Member Username: Coinchop
Post Number: 2022 Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 10:40 am: |
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I have had some of those young people come to my door , all nice people, and when I told them I was already covered, they said thanks and left. One of my best friends was a Mormon. Been gone 10 years now, and I still miss him. Rode a lot of motorcycle rides with him. Both road and dirt. Would help anybody out with most anything. Never tried to make me a Mormon. I got this guy into dirt bikes at 42 years old and he crashed better than anybody I ever rode with. I think he would have followed me to hell on a dirtbike, and I think we came close a couple of times.../ |
   
Heyjoe
Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe
Post Number: 2302 Registered: 02-2009

| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:01 am: |
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walking my dogs i have had things thrown at me from cars. not often but once in a while. one time a whole large soda from mcdonalds in the back. same kind of cowards that hide behind keyboards. |
   
Coinchop
Message Board Member Username: Coinchop
Post Number: 2023 Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:59 am: |
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Heyjoe.^. You can only be harrassed or attacked by somebody on a keyboard if you let them do it by reading what comes off that keyboard, unlike being hit from the back by something thrown at you.../ The person on the keyboard has no clue if he got you unless you let him know he got a good hit, in which case you made his day. |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 276 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 12:02 pm: |
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Used to play keyboards in beer joints. (Probably not what you were talking about, Joe.)But would hide behind them when scuffles started. Most were rural dives that used plastic cups for booze and sold canned beer. Didn't use chicken wire then. Those were fun days. Preferred stoned patrons to drunks.
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Naa_collector
Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector
Post Number: 5387 Registered: 06-2009

| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 10:35 am: |
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Mormon missionaries aren't required to "wear black" but the policy DOES call for "conservative suits." That means no flashy or brightly-colored suits. Gray or blue is perfectly acceptable. A lot of them DO ride bicycles. My son, who's a missionary in southern California, has a bike and wears dark suits, but his current area is large right now, so he has a car. His bike sits idle until he moves to a "smaller" area. I rode a bike a few times while serving as a missionary in Massachusetts in the late 80's. Sometimes it was pretty scary where we had to ride. I didn't much like it. Missionaries try to be frugal with expenses, because they aren't earning money and are generally supported by money they have saved previously to serving their mission, or supported by their families back home. Bikes make it easier to spend less. The LDS Church has an unpaid ministry and that includes its missionaries. I think it would be a good idea to have a policy to make them more visible, especially in dark conditions. |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 287 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 11:27 am: |
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Thanks for getting us back on point, NaaC. I go "off the wall" often, like a big "senior moment" bell goes off in my head. Two groups I'm all in favor of: cyclists and people with a "calling". Raised by a Southern Baptist and a skeptic, both great people, I don't agree with all faiths, but understand the fervor. Anyone who's been on a motorcycle understands the exhileration of the open road and the adventure. Same thing when I switched from motor to pedals, except I lost the big stomach.  |
   
Naa_collector
Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector
Post Number: 5392 Registered: 06-2009

| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 01:16 pm: |
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The danger of missionaries on bicycles is well known. However, with as many of them on the road as there is, the injury rate is probably still low. Even so, any injury, or even death, is too many. Here's a story where two Mormon missionaries on bikes were killed in Texas: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Two-missionaries-on-bicycles-struck-killed-by-2260443.php Scary. This happened on November 9 of last year--the same day my son become a missionary. :-( |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 293 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 11:14 pm: |
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Naa collector, I read the above link and just have a few questions: What is the message of the mission? What would the young men say to me when I open my door to them? Would it be about the Bible or Book of Mormon? You've been there, what were you trying to accomplish? Conversions? Good works? What? I became physically ill reading about the deaths of the two young men, and the injury of the other one. Their combined years were less than mine alone. 7pm in November, even at North Latitude 26, it had to be dark, or close to dark. Bicycle lights would be of little use as a means of being seen, especially when wearing that "policy" dark suit. I am impressed with the Mormon sense of family, community, and faithfulness to the Church. I believe that a person's spiritual life is almost totally a product of his parential influences and that of his peers. I pretty much treasure the friendship and camaraderie I find on this forum. I'm not criticizing any individual that I've had the pleasure to meet on here, but the LDS Church is responsible for the needless loss of these young lives. These boys were doing what was expected of them, probably what their daddys did. Their lives were taken by the stupidity of the "policies" and traditions of the Church. From what I saw last Saturday, the tragedy of November 8 (the article says Tuesday) has changed nothing, and pardon the expression: MAKES ME MAD AS HELL. |
   
Naa_collector
Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector
Post Number: 5397 Registered: 06-2009

| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 10:02 am: |
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Here is the most common line I used as an opener when talking to people at their doors, or on the street, as a missionary in Massachusetts in the late 80's: "If Jesus Christ visited the people of the American Continents, shortly after his death and resurrection in the Holy Land, would you be interested in hearing about it?" If the answer was yes, then I would proceed with: "We have a book of scripture, similar to the Bible, that tells about just such happening, when Jesus Christ visited the people of the Americas, as mentioned by Jesus in the Bible in the Book of John when He said He would visit 'other people nof of this fold, and that they shall hear his voice, and there would be ONE fold and ONE shepherd." Then I would go on to explain how the Book of Mormon came forth, and is a companion book of scripture to the Bible, and describes a people who left Jerusalem 600 years before Christ and came ot the Americas. I would go on to explain how Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon from its orginal script into English by the power and inspiration of God, and that I wanted to give them a free copy for them to read, so they could find out for themselves what I already believed to be true. The goal of LDS missionaries is to bring people to the restored truth of who and what Jesus Christ is, which truths have been lost over the hundreds of years since the Bible was written, and how the Book of Mormon restores truths that were once contained in the Bible, but have been lost due to multiple translations and by blatant removal of certain things by men who were not inspired and had intentions other than making the truths of God and His Son Jesus Christ known to the people. So, in a nutshell, that's what Mormon missionaries are out there doing. Their goal is to challenge people to read the Book of Mormon, come to know of it's truth, and then be baptized by one who has the restored authority, so they may become members of the Church of Jesus Christ, in these last days. Yes, I agree, if young people are dying like this, something should change. But, young people die all over the country, and the world, and it's ALL a tragedy. Being that they are missionaries shouldn't make their deaths more significant. We should ALL try to make people, young or old, missionaries or not, safer in this world. I'm not quite sure how you do that. I DO believe, however, that the LDS Church IS interested in the safety and well being of it's missionaries, as well as all of its members, and mankind in general, and that they do what they can to provide for the safety of their missionaries. Despite what you do, sometimes bad things happen, and you try to learn from those times--but I don't believe you can always prevent such incidents. The LDS Church has something like 50,000 missionaries at any given time out across the globe, and for the most part, they do their duties with honor and in safety. |
   
Coopercdrkey
Message Board Member Username: Coopercdrkey
Post Number: 67 Registered: 11-2011

| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 12:39 pm: |
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My grandfather was a Congregationalist minister. (I don't think there are many Congregational Churches left, and those that still cling to the denomination are basically independents. ) However, in his studies at Kansas University, he and his classmates were required to study the Book of Morman as part of their curriculum. I inherited many of his books including his Book of Mormon. Unfortunately, it was missing the last "bunch", (for lack of a better word), of pages, making it worth very little, instead of being worth "quite a bit", in the opinion of a Boston bookseller. One morning, when a couple of well dressed, clean looking young Mormon gentlemen came to my door, I invited them in to see the copy of my Book. They were somewhat astonished to see that it was published prior to "chapterization". (Is that a word?) Apparently, the Book of Mormon today has chapters and verses, somewhat similar to the Bible, but did not always have those designations. They had a term to describe my copy, but I don't know what it was. Naa Collector- Any insight? |
   
Redhawk4
Message Board Member Username: Redhawk4
Post Number: 2672 Registered: 02-2009

| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 12:55 pm: |
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Yes the original Book of Mormons were more like a novel in that they did not have the numbered verses. These were added later to the same text, probably to make it much easier to reference different sections as we are familiar with doing in a bible. |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 294 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 09:57 pm: |
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To the best of my knowledge, before the Protestent Reformaton of the 16th century, while the Roman Catholics had charge of all the Bibles, the chapters and verses were added. They weren't put in by the original writers. Dar, (please call me Mike or by my username, whichever is best for you) It is most obvious to me that you are a good and decent person, and I see that you are studied in your faith, and I appreciate the time it took to answer my questions. I was curious if the assertion that Jesus was in America was "up front" in missionary presentations. I don't think that God's purpose, if we disire to know Him, is to have us arguing with each other. I am not a regular church-goer, nor much of a debater. As I have mentioned on other threads, was raised by a Southern Baptist Mom and a "skepic" Dad. I suppose I'm somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, but closer to Mom. I assume, correct me if "any of my business", that you were raised in a Mormon family, ie. not converted. I'm sure if I were raised in Utah, likely I'd believe Mormonism. Just for those who may not know, and not as argument toward you: Most Protestants such as Baptists, do not hold as authentic Joseph Smith's other scripture, and do not see any Native American oral historical evidence, nor archaeological evidence, nor DNA connection from the Middle East to Native Americans, that would support Smith's assertions or revelations. "Main-line" Protestants, to over simplify, take John 14:6 as the nutshell of Christianity. There are no sacrements, no good works repaid by God, or excomminucation, or shunning. Basically, as the thief on the cross, only one thing needed to make it to Glory, sticking up for Christ. Again, this is what I've always been taught, thus it seems "right" to me. I also differ with you in that I believe we have more original copies of Bible manuscripts today than ever before. Though there were ancient edicts that culled some of the Bible, scrutiny has shown that those gone wouldn't pass due to content. The "lost in translation" assertion does not seem "right" to me. Now out of my pulpit: I didn't convey very well that today's highways are ten times as crowded as they used to be. Most of the dumb masses around here are not accustomed to seeing bicycles on certain 4 lanes. Seeing themselves as NASCAR drivers, the idiots could easily run over pedestrians, animals, or cyclists. That the LDS fathers don't understand this is incredible to me. I reallize that the likelyhood of meeting many of you guys on the forum is remote. (1800 miles from Salt Lake City to Birmingham) You would be one welcomed to my home. If you're ever in the Southeast, give me a "heads up". I'll vacuum the dog hair out of the guest room.  |
   
Louiethelump
Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump
Post Number: 2462 Registered: 12-2010

| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 02:56 pm: |
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The truth is not for everyone...... That is what the right to choose is all about. Each to their own. can we still be friends Bama? I like Alabama folks...... |
   
Naa_collector
Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector
Post Number: 5423 Registered: 06-2009

| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 03:18 pm: |
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Guys, I'm not ignoring you. I just haven't had time to respond. |
   
Theysayimnotme
Message Board Member Username: Theysayimnotme
Post Number: 529 Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 03:58 pm: |
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I see them around here but they don't wear full suits. Dress pants, ties & white shirts but no jackets. I have never seen them riding in the dark but the white shirts would be a help. |
   
Naa_collector
Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector
Post Number: 5431 Registered: 06-2009

| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 04:13 pm: |
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The use of suit jackets depends upon the weather and the temperature. In the south, you'll may rarely see missionaries with jackets. Further north, they wear them more frequently. And, it also depends upon the time of year. During the winter, jackets are worn more frequently, whereas summertime calls for just white shirts. I'm not sure how the policy varies around the country and the world, but in Massachusetts 30 years ago, you would wear jackets from October to April and to Sunday Church meetings and other meetings. Other times, short or long sleeved white shirts were fine. |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 297 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:14 pm: |
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Theysayimnotme, whodotheysayyouare? (always wanted to ask) Kidding, heard about the loss of your first "handle". Too much information in my previous post. Sorry about that. In retrospect they could look like negatives. I was trying to give a perspective from the upbringing I had, not to dislodge anyone's faith. I'm not one to critisize anyone on what they believe. I myself, have no spiritual "gumption", always re-looking, doubting, the whole circle. Trying do right when no one's looking and helping people when I get a chance, is about all the "Christian" I am. I doubt I'll ever post on this topic again. I would ask anyone on the forum to use care and common sense when posting on here and referring to religious "minorities". (does that sound OK?) what I mean is, this forum is based in Utah, where LDS is a majority of the population. So lots of our favorites on here are Mormons. I'm not sure everyone thinks about that. It's not my job to "moderate" or anything, just advocating common courtesy. I hope all of you on the forum who are in the LDS Church will keep the ball rolling on the safety issue. Who could you call? Seems a minimum of reflective vests, helment strobes, and some direction from whoever organizes the missions would be in order. You and me friends, Louie? Well of course! Wish we were neighbors. (hope you'll look at my questions on "Too strange two guns....." in "Other Guns") And if you're ever in my neighborhood, please drop by. You could bunk with Dar when he comes down.  |
   
Theysayimnotme
Message Board Member Username: Theysayimnotme
Post Number: 530 Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:56 pm: |
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When I was in Massachusetts what we wore also depended on the season only it varried between khakais & O.D.s the first time and khakais & greens the second when I was recalled. I can assure you that's the ONLY way they could ever get me to stay there for any lenght of time. |
   
Louiethelump
Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump
Post Number: 2479 Registered: 12-2010

| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 08:14 am: |
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Bama22 I only speak for me, but I have no objection to anyone who does not believe as I do, and I have no objection to anyone SAYING they think what I believe is BUNK in their opinion, or that they don't think it is true. One of the strong tenets of Mormonism is CHOICE, or Free Will. ALL things are voluntary and while you are told what is expected, you are never told what you HAVE to do or believe. If a prospective member is offered the information and just cannot believe, that is OK. What I DO object to is LIES being told about what is done or believed. I also object to being told I am STUPID or WRONG about something I believe in a religious context, as after all, religion is based on FAITH isn't it? Most LDS in the areas of the world where it is not the majority religion go about their lives and many or most of the people they associate with don't even know what religion they are, and it does not matter to either side. I don't base the decision to associate or like the people I work with or know on their religion. There are good and bad in all religions. They are all people, and flawed, and religion is a means to an end. That goal is to strive for the perfection that we can never achieve, but to become better people along the way. Each to their own. I won't step on your faith and you don't step on mine is the best policy. |
   
Chopprs
Message Board Member Username: Chopprs
Post Number: 5913 Registered: 09-2009

| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 12:35 pm: |
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.....Bama, can I be your neighbor too?  |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 298 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 09:56 pm: |
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Chopprs, I have added another cup of water to the soup, in anticipation of your visit. Looks like only about 1200 miles.(?) C'mon down! Louie, I hope you don't see any lies in anything I wrote. I remember when George Bush 43 used to catch it from the left (includes the media) for "lying" about WMDs in Iraq. At least 10 different well respected sources told him the "stuff" was there. Then we gave them almost a year to hide or move it before we set foot there. Which is beside the point, that is: that saying what you believe to be true, and turns out to be false, is not lying. I can just about guarantee that I'm done on this subject. As the post began, it was about my concern for the safety of the young men. And then I asked Dar about what the "presentation" would be like. The fact that the part that Southern Baptists might "flinch" at was at the beginning, not hidden for later, gives me a sense that these guys are for real. They risk their lives because they are sincere in what they do. In Alabama, there's a Baptist church on every corner. Seems like LDS mission work would be difficult here, because of what is preconceived. I hope some of this makes sense. I don't go to the "Politics and Religion" topic here much lately. I hope the reasons are obvious. Once there was a post there that was about what Southern Baptists were doing, and it wasn't the good. You can be sure that all Baptists weren't doing that. Whether or not intended, it felt a little like an assumption was made that it was all Southern Baptists, "misbehaving again". I'm reminded of a time when I dated a lady that was of Pentecostal belief. To nutshell this: they are one of many persuasions that believe the Bible as I have heard it, plus some added "features". So what I believe looks rather ordinary to them, I guess. I went to a Church party of theirs; they were outwardly slamming Baptists as being "stiff" and "just didn't have everything". They clammed-up some when I told them that I was Baptist. I once attended a Presbyterian Singles group whose director wanted us to go out and "deprogam" anyone who didn't believe what we believed. He also had a habit of trying to micro-manage everyone's personal life. My stay there was very short. This is beginning to go long, like that guy whose initials mean, I think: Must Divulge Everything. I'm off this forever, except the part about bicycle safety. Remember, I'm not worhy to represent Southern Baptists, or or anyone else. I ask your forgivness if I have screwed up. mike |
   
Heyjoe
Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe
Post Number: 2355 Registered: 02-2009

| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 10:04 pm: |
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put some more water in the soup Bama 22. how far are you from Foley? im heading that way later this summer. dont pay attention to Whitehorse and his dominionist bigotry. if he knew what he was talking about he wouldnt be whitehorse. |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 299 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 10:55 pm: |
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Joe -- I'm about 20 miles NE of Birmingham, toward Chattanooga. Foley is about 250 miles SSW of me, about 5 hours, mostly interstate. You like cornbread?  |
   
Heyjoe
Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe
Post Number: 2356 Registered: 02-2009

| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 11:01 pm: |
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i reckon |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 300 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 07:45 am: |
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Not very convincing, Joe. It's good with the soup, green beans, collards, turnip greens, fried okrie, fried green tomatoes, and the whole Bubba Gump liturgy of shrimp. (uh oh, getting off on religion again. . |
   
Heyjoe
Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe
Post Number: 2359 Registered: 02-2009

| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 10:32 am: |
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Bama one thing i dont have a problem with is eating food put before me...ha! |
   
Louiethelump
Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump
Post Number: 2504 Registered: 12-2010

| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 10:35 am: |
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Bama: Tell Joe about the 3 meals a day staple: Grits An old hunting companion from Thomasville GA honestly eats grits at every meal. I like them with eggs in the morning, but my Jessup GA mother did not generally make them more than once a day. |
   
Coopercdrkey
Message Board Member Username: Coopercdrkey
Post Number: 72 Registered: 11-2011

| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 10:48 am: |
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Low Country Grits, "Island Hotel Style" White grits that have been prepared to a cake-like consistency, so that they may actually be cut into rectangular cakes about an inch and a half thick. Smothered in a semi-dark roux with shrimp and scallops! Best enjoyed with a draft Becks. Louie, want to come to the island? |
   
Heyjoe
Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe
Post Number: 2361 Registered: 02-2009

| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 11:05 am: |
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first time i had grits was in 1974 in arkansas if memory is correct. seems like at that time period i remember grits being served more often with meals in local restaurants in the south than in more recent trips. im partial to home fries with breakfast myself. |
   
Westerly1965
Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965
Post Number: 2271 Registered: 09-2010

| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 11:22 am: |
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Yummmmmmmm Home Fries love a good batch of home fries..... |
   
Heyjoe
Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe
Post Number: 2362 Registered: 02-2009

| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 11:33 am: |
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swing your boat around cape horn and through the Hells Gate, and ill rustle you up a batch |
   
Westerly1965
Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965
Post Number: 2272 Registered: 09-2010

| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 11:42 am: |
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The thought has crossed my mind but I am a pretty lazy sailor and I hate cold so more likely I would pop through the canal! That way I could drink Mimosa's and bbq chicken while somebody else does most of the work LOL! |
   
Heyjoe
Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe
Post Number: 2363 Registered: 02-2009

| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 11:50 am: |
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sounds good! stops in costa rica on both oceans would be nice |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 301 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 06:09 pm: |
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Love me some grits. Always with breakfast. Sometimes breakfast is at night. If you see someone putting sugar on grits, you know they dont talk no good bubbanese. Shrimp and grits I've heard of, think there's a 'Nawlens' connection. I keep expecting Granpaw Jones to come out and read the menu.  |
   
Bama22
Message Board Member Username: Bama22
Post Number: 302 Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 06:13 pm: |
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..........oh yeah. How many people have I asked to drop by the the ole hacienda? (not that I'd stoop to a shameless, blatent, suggestion that I TOO, would be invited to the island. would never do anything that tacky) |