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     Bud Message Board Member Username: Bud Post Number: 1506 Registered: 10-2009 |
Eric Holder blames fast and Furious on Congress for NOT PASSING STRICTER GUN CONTROL LAWS!!! I can't believe he said that! | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1860 Registered: 09-2010  |
I can he'll say ANYTHING if he thinks it will get him out of the hole he found himself in... | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 1057 Registered: 10-2010 |
He authorized an operation that violated standing federal laws. He is obviously not throwing him on the mercy of the courts for his part in breaking those laws, you know so they can actually be enforced. The executive branch, charged with enforcing standing laws by the Constitution is not enforcing them on Holder. How does he think stricter federal laws will help? | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 1377 Registered: 12-2010  |
WAIT!!!! THAT CANNOT BE!!!! I Read from reliable sources RIGHT ON THIS FORUM that the Obama Regime IS NOT ANTI-GUN!!!! Even though they say they are, and are working on it under the table, THEY ARE NOT ANTI-GUN!!!! Saw it RIGHT HERE! | ||
| Niterider Message Board Member Username: Niterider Post Number: 64 Registered: 06-2010  |
It is their plan to push strict gun control in the US. Fast and Furious was an ongoing op at the same time the news was blaming the Mexican violence on "lax" U.S. gun laws. Remember that? They were showing piles of weapons every nite on the lame stream media just decrying it as "OUR FAULT, OUR PROBLEM" ....all according to PLAN, my friends. Holder is in on the final solution which is a go-round of the Constitution through government regulation (I heard it in a speech the Senator Obummer gave 2 years prior to his Prez election). Got to disarm the masses before the revolution. Opps, a little Marx slipped out there, sorry. | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 1385 Registered: 12-2010 |
No one listens to what he says......... No one sees the troops he is training that he had SAID will be equally funded, trained, and equipped to the US MILITARY. (HIS WORDS) Where do you all think the "Stimulus" money really went? I am afraid the Sheeple are doomed This will not be the first time street thugs have been used for the personal army of the elected leader. READ HISTORY | ||
| Red14 Message Board Member Username: Red14 Post Number: 1926 Registered: 02-2009  |
''The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property. The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion.'' Karl Marx ''The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses. The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.'' Vladimir Lenin ''We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?'' Joseph Stalin Any of the above sound familiar? | ||
| Mndoug Message Board Member Username: Mndoug Post Number: 1330 Registered: 12-2010  |
HEY GUYS, HOLDER IS RIGHT when he says we need stricter gun control laws.... we do need stricter laws that control him and the ATF! Can't argue with that. What a putz. Did you see where he could not even bring himself to apologize to the family of the slain Border Agent? He won't even admit that "Fast and Furious" was responsible for the agent's death. HOLDER. . . HAS. . . TO. . . GO! | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1867 Registered: 09-2010 |
Yep and hes not the only one. We have a whole lot of trash to take out... | ||
| Roguets1 Message Board Member Username: Roguets1 Post Number: 132 Registered: 09-2011 |
Hey Red14; big problem with Americans understanding Communism is that they have no idea who the "bourgeoisie" is. I do not think they understand that they are the non aristocratic business owner. The large and small business owners. Basically all those that are not of the peasant class or the aristocratic class. In America that includes just about all but the working poor. Hard to get them to understand anything when they cannot understand the terminology and recognize they are screaming hatred towards themselves. | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 1066 Registered: 10-2010 |
Its anyone who has a means of making a living other than their own labor IIRC | ||
| Tranquilo Message Board Member Username: Tranquilo Post Number: 908 Registered: 06-2009 |
Tomorrow Eric Holder goes before Daryl Issa's Congressional committee investigating the "Fast and Furious" scheme for another round of questioning. Where will the trail of lies end? | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 4785 Registered: 09-2009  |
Obama has already put all of the documents pertaining to the Border Patrol officer's death under lock and key. What can we prove if they lock up all of the evidence? This clown show has got to go! It truly is amazing how much of the populous of Chicago that Obama brought to Washington with him. Is there anyone left there? Is that why Rahm Emanuel went back, because no one was left to guard the fort? It is also amazing when you listen to what this man says in his speeches. The same rhetoric over and over. I think not! It appears to me more like look at this hand while I pic your pocket with the other!  | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 4789 Registered: 09-2009 |
........awe man, they are REAMING him......GOOD!!!!!!!!! Given the air of this hearing I find it hard to believe that he will squirm his way out. He is trying realy hard but it looks like the committee is sick of his runaround and they are not giving an inch! | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 1157 Registered: 10-2010 |
I think he should be charged and jailed for it. If Obama wants to take the political heat for pardoning him let him. However at least force him to do it. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 4554 Registered: 06-2009  |
So, today Eric Holder says that guns given to criminals during the operation Fast & Furious will turn up in gun crime scenes for YEARS to come. But, at least top officials NEVER heard anything about this program until it was TOO LATE. Oh, I feel better now. We must have rogue agents giving guns to criminals on their own, without telling the upper management guys. That's MUCH better than having the top guys telling the grunts to hand over the guns to the bad guys. IDIOTS. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 4790 Registered: 09-2009 |
They are gonna tie Elena Kagan to this. ALL of the documents having anything to do with her are on the chopping block including Holder's ppointment book as he can't remember if he met with her or not.....idiot! | ||
| Redhawk4 Message Board Member Username: Redhawk4 Post Number: 2198 Registered: 02-2009  |
This scandal should be bigger than Watergate, yet I'm not holding my breath anything will happen as a result or the average American will ever know about it or understand the real implications. | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 1526 Registered: 09-2009  |
They are putting on a good show. The puppy is chasing its tail around and barking. In the end one side will say “and don’t let it happen again”. The other side will say “OK”. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for something good to come out of it. That just is not Washington. Sorry but there is no Santa Claus. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 4793 Registered: 09-2009 |
I don't know Lee. For the most part I will say you are right but then we had Watergate and we had the Blue Dress and so on. Every once in a while the populous will just not stand for it. Holders arrogance in ths matter may just sink his ship...or not. There was a Senator on the news that said they have just began to show the American people what was done. He also said that if Holder does not comply they have already told him that preparations to Impeach him have been filed!!!! | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 1158 Registered: 10-2010 |
I still cannot figure out the logic We violated countless WELL KNOWN federal laws and it has caused a problem. Lets not punish anyone Lets make new federal laws ?? | ||
| Bud Message Board Member Username: Bud Post Number: 1626 Registered: 10-2009 |
WHAT? First there is NO Easter Bunny, NOW there is NO SANTA CLAUS! What is this world coming to? I suppose the next thing will be replacing the Christmas tree with a HOLIDAY TREE! | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 1527 Registered: 09-2009 |
Well Bud, we now have X-mas instead of Christmas. I think they Xed Christ out a long time ago. Watergate - Republican - lost the President. Blue Dress - Democrat - slap on the hand. Both lied to the people. No one died. Different outcome. Fast and Furious - Democrat - I think nothing will come from it. They are lying to the people again. People have died and more will die with the guns they sold in order to get more laws passed here in America. But this is the Democrats and I think the buck will be passed around until some field agent takes the fall. If that much. | ||
| Redhawk4 Message Board Member Username: Redhawk4 Post Number: 2199 Registered: 02-2009 |
I would like to think that if we get a Republican President in at the next election this whole matter will be revisited. I think the problems in these sorts of situations is that there are some many crooked and dirty individuals in Washington that they live by the mantra "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Most of them it seems are only one investigation away from being kicked out on some violation or other. However this Fast & Furious thing is a really serious issue, my feeling is that Democrats get away with things more as Uncle Lee points out because they are not held accountable by the main stream media. If this had happened during Bush's tenure, there would have been such a backlash and uproar that people would have had to resign if nothing else because their positions would have been untenable. Democrats and their supporters look at things from the viewpoint of the ends justify the means "we don't like people having guns - this was a move toward restricting or banning some gun sales, therefore it's OK". In reality every American should be outraged that this has happened, regardless of whether you support the motive. If you accept that your government can act in this way on this issue, then you are heading down a dangerous path with regard to anything you do hold dear. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 4562 Registered: 06-2009 |
> Well Bud, we now have X-mas instead of Christmas. I think they Xed Christ out a long time ago. Actually, the X comes from the Greek letter Chi, which looks like "X" and is the first word in Christ when spelled in Greek. (Remember the FISH symbol, which is a Greek anagram for "Jesus Christ, God's Son, Savior," or ichthys [Iota, Chi, Theta, Ypsilon, Sigma], which is the Greek word for FISH. The Chi, or X, in there is for Christ.) As for the Christmas tree--it's not really a Christian symbol anyway. The Catholic Church adopted the use of trees from the European druid "tree worshippers" in order to integrate them into Christianity--and the practice spread across all of Christianity. The Catholics also moved the date of the celebration of Christ's birth to December to match the druids pagan ritual with trees. Christ was not born in December. Remember when the angel went to he shepherds who watching over their flocks by night? Does this sound like winter? Really? Presents and trees and decorations are just traditions that have leaked into Christianity over the years. If we remember "the reason for the season" we'll be just fine. Sure, keep the traditions--the make it fun for us all, right? Christmas wouldn't be Christmas without them now, but we shouldn't concentrate on them. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 4812 Registered: 09-2009 |
The tradition of Christmas in the US as well as it's beginnings were for Religiously Political reasons ...BUT... the real meaning of Christmas to most is a time of year to be thankful, merry, happy and in a giving spirit. These are all good no matter what your religion is and this is why it has been so popular in the US because these values follow the general values that we all feel are right and true as well as what the founding fathers had in mind when they signed the DoI. Christmas is far more than just Christmas in the US and always has been. THIS is why the Left attacks it with such unbearable poindedness. It stands for everything they hate! They want us all to be mindless drones.... Somebody really needs to kik Eric Holder right in the nuts!!! | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 4567 Registered: 06-2009 |
Agreed, Chops.  (On ALL your points....) | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 1539 Registered: 09-2009 |
+2 on that (ALL Chopprs points) As a child (I was one once) I don't remember seeing "X-mas". It was one big word that included Christ. I'll bet some little "anti-Christ" had to really dig to get all that information to be able to sell it to the "pro-Christ" folks. Sort of like a jig-saw puzzle, getting the little pieces to fit. If it fits, it goes there, never mind that the picture is wrong.... The piece fits..... | ||
| Tranquilo Message Board Member Username: Tranquilo Post Number: 978 Registered: 06-2009 |
bho's a.g. -eric holder - goes before Daryl Issa's Congressional committee investigating the "Fast & Furious" gun running scheme today for another round of questioning. It seems that eric is not complying with the committee's subpoena of about 74,000 pages of documents that need to be studied in order to get to the bottom of this scam. Issa needs to give the small fry immunity in this investigation in order to reel in the big fish. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5035 Registered: 06-2009 |
I saw this on Hannity last night with his two hot lawyers. This is a big deal. Holder could get criminal charges if he doesn't comply. This could get mighty interesting. | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 1443 Registered: 10-2010 |
Holder should get criminal charges if he does comply. ALLEGEDLY (added that, neat huhg) He intentionally ordered the violation of federal law in a way that caused international crime. If we do not put him on trial the government of Mexico should petition the Hague to do so. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5038 Registered: 06-2009 |
You mean if he DOESN't comply? Or that he should get charges either way? | ||
| Redhawk4 Message Board Member Username: Redhawk4 Post Number: 2484 Registered: 02-2009 |
I really want to see Holder go down big time. Firstly, because what was done is so outrageously wrong and immoral. Secondly, if this issue blows up enough and he has to resign/be fired gets sent to jail etc. etc. this will provide a platform to show how corrupt the Obama administration is, on so many fronts, and really help in ensuring he is not re-elected. The way this is dragging on the timing could be perfect. | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 1446 Registered: 10-2010 |
Either way. Again this is assuming the following premises are true: Holder KNOWINGLY violated federal law. Holder intended for his violation to result in guns going into Mexico illegally without regards to international law. Holder knew, or should have know, these guns would be used in a manner that caused civil unrest in Mexico. He was effectively arming a resistance to a legitimately recognized government in another country in defiance of his own country's laws. I think if the Mexican government does not see the American government "handling its own" in regards to this crime that they have every right to petition the Hague. This is outside of Holder's hands. If he hands over documents and our government does not come down on him, or if he doesn't, Mexico has every moral and legal right to petition the Hague for a redress of grievance. The term "unlawful combatant" must have something to do with those who supply them right? | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5040 Registered: 06-2009 |
Holder is screwed. If this is handled by congress, we'll hopefully get to the bottom of this--as opposed to Obama's Demoncratic chronies in the Justice Department. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5041 Registered: 06-2009 |
> Holder knew, or should have know, these guns would be used in a manner that caused civil unrest in Mexico. He knew. He was counting on it. He just didn't count on getting caught for it. Typical criminal mentality. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5049 Registered: 06-2009 |
"I KNEW NOTHING!" http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/02/holder-says-no-one-punished-yet-during-testimony-on-controversial-fast-and/ Good luck with that, Holder. | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 1450 Registered: 10-2010 |
If he knew nothing about this type of thing going on in his organization how does he still have a job? | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5053 Registered: 06-2009 |
Yeah, either he's a criminal or a bad boss and incompetant cabinet member. I see a perjery case coming up, not unlike the one that got President Clinton impeached. | ||
| Lohman446 Message Board Member Username: Lohman446 Post Number: 1452 Registered: 10-2010 |
SOMEONE authorized this operation. Either it was Holder or someone above or below him. There are not a lot of candidates above him. Someone here needs to be held accountable (ala Scooter Libby) for this. We are a nation of laws and if we do not apply them to ourselves we risk someone else doing so (aka the Hague) | ||
| Redhawk4 Message Board Member Username: Redhawk4 Post Number: 2490 Registered: 02-2009 |
I don't know how he still has a job. As stated before, I do not know how anyone could be involved in something like this and get away (only so far hopefully) with it in any "civilized" democratic country. In Europe anyone doing anything equivalent to this, would have be hounded out of office long ago by the media alone, long before it getting into official enquiries and the legal system. I am still stunned and disturbed by the whole non reaction, in the main, that there has been to this serious breach of both federal and international law. He can make all the excuses he likes about not knowing about it, but with all the very public noise he was making about guns from the US going to Mexico etc. - does he really expect us to believe he was not fully involved? Also, if he were genuinely not involved, how long would it really take to find who the mastermind was? Many must have "just been following orders", it shouldn't be too difficult to find where they ultimately came from. If he was not involved he'd have been all over finding out, who's to blame, firstly to try and save his own skin and secondly because it's his job. The fact there is such a cover up, immediately shows the plot was hatched and approved at a very high level. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5054 Registered: 06-2009 |
The way for us to know is for Holder to release documents about this operation past February of last year. We know he has them and he has thus far refused to release them, as congress has demanded--and over which they have currently threatened him with contempt. He's screwed, unless Obama comes to his rescue--which I almost hope happens. | ||
| Redhawk4 Message Board Member Username: Redhawk4 Post Number: 2492 Registered: 02-2009 |
I totally hope Obama tries to rescue him in a manner that gets him dragged into it. Who's to say the documents they are so keen not to produce do not already implicate others above and beyond Holder including Obama? The nature of the crime, in terms of what they were trying to achieve and the means used, leads me to suspect the idea came right from the top because it was so politically motivated. I'd be seriously pissed off if someone working for me committed such a huge error of judgement and had done such a stupid thing - why do we see no one in the line of responsibility seemingly feeling that way? - to me it only shows more that everyone's in the same boat and they are all looking to minimize the issue and cover their backs. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5057 Registered: 06-2009 |
Another good point! What if Obama's name is all over those thousands of documents since last February? He sure likes to claim he was so involved with the whole Osama thing. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5064 Registered: 06-2009 |
Holder says there's no cover-up, but it's all just an attempt at political gain. Damn right it's all political! A covert political move by the Obama administration against the gun owners of America! How more political can you get than that??? My guess is that this was a attempt to justify new gun laws during Obama's second term and the entire thing was planned--but apparently not planned WELL. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/02/holder-says-no-one-punished-yet-during-testimony-on-controversial-fast-and/ | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5745 Registered: 06-2009 |
Holder's in hot water again, this time from BOTH parties. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/08/politics/pol-ted-stevens-report/index.html | ||
| Redhawk4 Message Board Member Username: Redhawk4 Post Number: 2898 Registered: 02-2009 |
I won't hold my breath for any meaningful outcome on this either. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 5762 Registered: 06-2009 |
Good point. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 6067 Registered: 06-2009 |
Low morale in low-level positions at the ATF over Fast & Furious: Internal memo shows ATF rank and file don't trust the brass | ||
| Redhawk4 Message Board Member Username: Redhawk4 Post Number: 3061 Registered: 02-2009 |
It's a shame Brian Terry didn't look a bit like the son Obama never had, then there might have been a proper investigation. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 6075 Registered: 06-2009 |
Interesting point! | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 6901 Registered: 06-2009 |
Eric Holder is playing the shell game: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/holder-claims-emails-using-words-fast-and-furious-don-t-refer-operation-fast-and We SAY "Fast & Furious" but we don't MEAN "Fast & Furious!" What we actually mean is "Wide Receiver!" Um, WHAT???? What kind of double-crap-talk is that??? | ||
| Gunpacker Message Board Member Username: Gunpacker Post Number: 52 Registered: 05-2012  |
Mexican attorney prepares civil lawsuit on Fast and Furious "A Mexican attorney is preparing a civil lawsuit against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Fireams and Explosives over the Fast and Furious "gunwalking" criminal operation, the Mexican news magazine Proceso reported Tuesday. " http://www.examiner.com/article/mexican-attorney-prepares-civil-lawsuit-on-fast-and-furious | ||
| Gunpacker Message Board Member Username: Gunpacker Post Number: 53 Registered: 05-2012 |
"Holder has both obstructed justice and engaged in contempt of Congress by yielding less than ten percent of the documents requested (some 7,000 out of 80,000 documents)" Big Zero says it all... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypAU28t5Ya0&feature=player_embedded | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7469 Registered: 09-2009 |
"Mexican Lawsuit".....what is the pinchline? That has to be some sort of joke. No one in Mexico is smart enough to be an attorney! | ||
| Gunpacker Message Board Member Username: Gunpacker Post Number: 55 Registered: 05-2012 |
Honestly I hope they get the lawsuit filed and I hope they win somewhere in the 10 figure range. Yes, its our tax dollars that will pay it but maybe it'll get the Obama worshiping dopes out there to see what kind of trouble this traitor and his appointees are getting us into. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7478 Registered: 09-2009 |
.....he has lost several lawsuits already and it has not phased him one iota! | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7489 Registered: 09-2009 |
Congress will have a hearing next week to determine if Eric Holder is in Contempt of congress! | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 6910 Registered: 06-2009 |
Why do we need a hearing? Don't we already know? | ||
| Red14 Message Board Member Username: Red14 Post Number: 2083 Registered: 02-2009 |
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| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 6915 Registered: 06-2009 |
Senator calls for Holder's resignation amid challenges over leak probe, Fast and Furious | ||
| Tranquilo Message Board Member Username: Tranquilo Post Number: 1167 Registered: 06-2009 |
Today holder tried to satisfy the "Fast & Furious" investigating comitee with a "summary" of the documents they have subpoenaed. It did not work. Tomorrow they meet again to determine if holder will be held in contempt of Congress. Pull the trigger boys! | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7544 Registered: 09-2009 |
Plain and simple, Eric Holder is a Douche Bag and he is about to get what he deserves. Darrel Issa is tired of his crap and is about to deal Holder a portion of Karma!!! Obama can suk this one high and hard!!! | ||
| Bud Message Board Member Username: Bud Post Number: 2339 Registered: 10-2009 |
I wonder if John Boehner will back down. PUTTING THE BRAKES ON FAST AND FURIOUS: Concerns Growing that John Boehner may have asked Darrell Issa to Back Down against Eric Holder Image The Gun Owners of America has taken notice of a report from a prominent blogger in the Fast and Furious scandal. Mike Vanderboegh, of the Sipsey Street Irregulars blog, wrote that four sources have told him that House Speaker John Boehner has instructed Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa to back off of his investigation into Operation Fast and Furious. GOA General Counsel, Mike Hammond says that Vanderboegh has developed a credible reputation based on previous posts that seemed to pan out as he predicted. That said, Hammond is not willing to claim that Boehner has asked Issa to back off but he does acknowledge that there are some curious developments that have caused people to give the claims a second look. For example, Issa demanded that Holder comply with a subpoena for documents by February 9th. One day before that deadline, Issa withdrew the demand and gave Holder a time extension without a new deadline. A writer at the Big Government website levied the charge that Issa �blinked.� | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7545 Registered: 09-2009 |
I think Issa and Boehner have had this talk and Issa doesn't care what Boehner says. It is his job to get to the end of this and Boehner is not a god....I am beginning to lose faith in Boehner. before he was Speaker he had a lot to say and no he almost seems like a Righty/Lefty! | ||
| Bud Message Board Member Username: Bud Post Number: 2344 Registered: 10-2009 |
Obama lets Holder use executive privilege on refusal of turning over the fast & furious documents!  I knew they would come up with a way of not turning them over to Congress. I'm sure this was the plan all along! | ||
| Tranquilo Message Board Member Username: Tranquilo Post Number: 1169 Registered: 06-2009 |
So bho has been saying that he didn't know a thing about the "Fast & Furious" scheme to undermine the Second Amendment. His claim of executive privilege today to deny the Congessional investigating committee of the subpoenaed documents affirms his involvement in this criminal undertaking and he needs to have his day in court after the Nov. elections! | ||
| Redhawk4 Message Board Member Username: Redhawk4 Post Number: 3152 Registered: 02-2009 |
If there is nothing to hide then why the need for a cover up? If BHO and Holder were not involved, releasing the documents would be the easiest way to clear themselves. No one would go through all the stress and aggravation of this unless the consequences of the truth coming out would be even worse for them. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 6959 Registered: 06-2009 |
Hillary a player in Fast & Furious? http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-new-evidence-shows-hillary-a-mastermind-behind-gunwalker | ||
| Uncle_lee Message Board Member Username: Uncle_lee Post Number: 2863 Registered: 09-2009 |
If one of us “little people” out here in the real part of the Country asks for a warrant before letting the law search our homes or autos, we are automatically assumed to be guilty of something. The same should be for them. Show us or you are guilty. Not my honey Hillary, not for a second would she be tied up in something like that. She is as pure as the morning dew on a rose petal. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7581 Registered: 09-2009 |
.......uhm...NO! She smells like hot garbage! | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7608 Registered: 09-2009 |
Six term Democrat from Utah Jim Matheson says he will vote to find Holder in contempt!!! A SIX TERM DEMOCRAT!!! | ||
| Tranquilo Message Board Member Username: Tranquilo Post Number: 1172 Registered: 06-2009 |
The NRA will be keeping score tomorrow on holder's contempt of Congress vote. Betcha more than a few Dems will vote with the Republicans to lower the boom on him! | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7615 Registered: 09-2009 |
So far seven Dems.....BYE-BYE Ricky!!!! | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3771 Registered: 12-2010 |
you do realize that being found in contempt of Congress carries no penalty, and has no more effect than a "resolution", right? | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7618 Registered: 09-2009 |
Yes but the question is what will they do? Contempt is a crime and people that are found in contempt are led out of the court room in handcuffs.....it speaks volumes, absolutely ruins his credibility as AG and adds to Obama's downward spiral!    | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 3772 Registered: 12-2010 |
That is what I am saying. I do not believe it is a crime. And there will be no handcuffs. I don't think there is any penalty for contempt of Congress other than you don't get a gold star. I hope you are right, but I FEAR that it will mean NOTHING | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 7619 Registered: 09-2009 |
......who is the Avatar? Mr. Cranky Pants?!?!? | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 6964 Registered: 06-2009 |
A contempt of congress charge is not good for Holder, no matter that it doesn't have teeth. And Obama trying to protect him does not look good at all. I hope they both get some deck furniture before the ship dips completely beneath the water. | ||
| Heyjoe Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe Post Number: 3223 Registered: 02-2009  |
Holder held in contempt of congress. vote was 255-67 | ||
| Bud Message Board Member Username: Bud Post Number: 2371 Registered: 10-2009 |
As the Dems. walked out during the vote. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 6973 Registered: 06-2009 |
"Daddy, can we go to the circus? Please? Can we? Can we?" "Not now, honey. I've had enough of the circus to last me for a while."  |
