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     Vtx Message Board Member Username: Vtx Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2011 |
is there any calif sellers out there? Ya it sux to buy anything but the mini-mag in calif. I have one in 22mag with holster grip for my CCW. I just got lucky yesterday and got an off calif roster black widow in 17hmr but am looking for others. Like a longer barrel than 11/8"!! any calif sellers have an off roster NAA for sale? thanks BTW why doesn't anyone put their location when listing naa's for sale??? | ||
| Theysayimnotme Message Board Member Username: Theysayimnotme Post Number: 390 Registered: 02-2009 |
I have two .32 ACP Guardians. One as issued & one melted. Neither would go cheap but it is the only way to get one in the People's Demokratik Republik & I only need one of them. I live in Riverside County. | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1815 Registered: 09-2010  |
Theysay I have one of those in .380 preban. One of the coolest toys I own when around gun folks and at the range. Also a daily carry. I would like a melted .32 but am willing to bet that you (as I would) will want to much lol. You would have to take my Guardian from my cold dead hands.... | ||
| Heyjoe Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe Post Number: 1896 Registered: 02-2009  |
Westerly if you move to Florida that wont be a problem anymore plus you already have a friend there, Louie. | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 1292 Registered: 12-2010  |
HEY!!!! WE have enough fence sitters here, and they are still coming in from the north........ No more from Kalifornia PLEASE! and I USED to like you Joe.......  | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1817 Registered: 09-2010 |
Heyjoe ~ That's a great idea! I think in fact that I will do that someday. I have been waiting for Louie to send me the address as I heard he has a spare room down there and wouldn't mind if I stayed with him for a bit while I got the move worked out and got myself situated. I just KNOW that we would have some great times together!! | ||
| 22man Message Board Member Username: 22man Post Number: 45 Registered: 10-2011 |
"Occupy" Louieville! Gas up the VWs! | ||
| Mndoug Message Board Member Username: Mndoug Post Number: 1293 Registered: 12-2010  |
WESTERLY --> For the ignorant among us... what do you mean by a "melted" gun? | ||
| Louiethelump Message Board Member Username: Louiethelump Post Number: 1323 Registered: 12-2010 |
We WOULD have a great time! I have NO DOUBT! Unfortunately, the only spare room is my shed, and it is well occupied by large palmetto bugs that may throw you out....... Doug: A melted gun is one that someone has rounded the sharp edges and corners to make it more comfy to pocket carry. They often remove the sights as well. Louie | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1835 Registered: 09-2010 |
Louie ~ I am not sure I want to take it up with the palmetto bugs. I have heard about your mosquitoes to so the shed is a bit scary.. If something opens up in the house or in the doghouse with the Chow let me know! And thank you for answering the melt question for me you'll see in my other post that I was a little tied up this weekend! | ||
| Heyjoe Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe Post Number: 1906 Registered: 02-2009 |
now you and Louie can shoot your 22 shorts together! | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1839 Registered: 09-2010 |
Yay us!! | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 4469 Registered: 06-2009  |
So, what's "California pre-ban"? Is it legal if the gun is old enough, or must it have been in California when the ban was passed, or what? | ||
| Theysayimnotme Message Board Member Username: Theysayimnotme Post Number: 399 Registered: 02-2009 |
Mndoug: Meltdown-http://www.northamericanarms.com/accessories/g-accessories/guardian-cc/custom-guardian-finishes.html Naa collector: Pre-ban may mean guns possessed before Guardians went off the approved list. It could also refer to guns without the Integral Locking System that I seem to recall that NAA tried to get Kaliforia to accept. | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1883 Registered: 09-2010 |
Yes Kali excepted the first Guardians with the ILS in them. Pre-ban is stuff that was here before it was NOT on the approved list or before the approved list was a list. For instance the short I just bought is from the late '70's and has been laying in a safe since new. It is and has always been here therefore it is legal here. Wanna hear a good one though? It can be purchased here and transferred here but it CANNOT be shipped within the state. SOOOOO I HAVE to drive to where it is twice to do the transfer lololololol. | ||
| Chopprs Message Board Member Username: Chopprs Post Number: 4466 Registered: 09-2009  |
Guardians have an "Instrument Landing System" built in? WOW! That is James Bond kewl........ | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1885 Registered: 09-2010 |
Chops ~ LOL Integral locking system but I like Instrument Landing System better so lets go with that! I Have been going to disassemble mine and see if I could remove the ILS but frankly I am somewhat afraid to do that lol. | ||
| Heyjoe Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe Post Number: 1927 Registered: 02-2009 |
how can they tell if the gun was in the state before the ban list? | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1886 Registered: 09-2010 |
Heyjoe ~ That I do not know. In the instance of the .22 short from NAA it has never been on the list so I guess they could run the serial number and see when it was made. Also the gun can come into the state legally if you owned it before you moved here. ANY gun can come into Kali legally if you owned it before you moved here. They say you are supposed to reg them within 6 months of arrival but we have so much transient work out here that they don't actually enforce that law. I think for the most part they just except that if it is here in the state it can be sold and transferred and is legal. Doesn't really matter if its registered or not UNLESS you are carrying concealed. IF you are with a permit or not you had BETTER be DAMN SURE that the gun is registered and its registered to YOU. If it isn't and somebody finds out you ARE going to have a problem. Funny thing about kali is that it's a felony to carry a police baton if you are not a LEO BUT it is a misdemeanor (doesn't even come with a fine) to carry a handgun loaded concealed.....weird rules ehh? | ||
| Theysayimnotme Message Board Member Username: Theysayimnotme Post Number: 400 Registered: 02-2009 |
I doubt that they try although it would be against the law for the seller to possess it. As a buyer you would probably be safe if they couldn't prove you knew it was not legally held. You can only buy them from private parties not from dealers but they have to be transferred by a dealer who holds them for the ten day waiting period. They can be put on consignment with a dealer but he never takes ownership of them. There is an even bigger loophole. Police officers are allowed to buy pistols not on the list & they are then allowed to sell them so it is possible to buy new guns that are not on the list. | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1888 Registered: 09-2010 |
Yes LEO's can buy whatever they want to legally. It is not however all that easy for them to buy and resell said guns. Ask the Sac county sheriff's about it.... | ||
| Theysayimnotme Message Board Member Username: Theysayimnotme Post Number: 402 Registered: 02-2009 |
This has been going on for as long as the list has existed. It looks as though someone has finally noticed. Whenever you express an interest in a gun you can't have ALL the dealers ask you if you have a friend in law enforcement. It seems too much like a straw purchase to me & I suspect they may start to crack down especially when the cop does too many of them or resells too quickly. | ||
| Westerly1965 Message Board Member Username: Westerly1965 Post Number: 1891 Registered: 09-2010 |
Yep and Yep there are a couple of county boys up here that may do a little jail time over this deal we will have to wait and see how it pans out. In the end I don't think it will be anything serious this time as the have not technically broken any laws. But I do expect to see some more BS legislation because of it. | ||
| Naa_collector Message Board Member Username: Naa_collector Post Number: 4473 Registered: 06-2009 |
So, it must have physically been owned IN California before the ban. How on eath would you ever prove that? | ||
| Theysayimnotme Message Board Member Username: Theysayimnotme Post Number: 403 Registered: 02-2009 |
I suspect it would be the other way around. They would have to prove it wasn't. There are the other two exceptions. Someone moving to Kalifornia & bringing it in & the LEO exception. So even the date of manufacture would not be proof. It's much the same with magazines. I asked the Dept of Justice in an E-mail if bringing a magazine back to Kalifornia after visiting Nevada or Arizona would be legal & they said it would. So you could buy one there & bring it home & unless they could prove what you did you would be okay. (Don't buy one they can prove was made after the date.) They have been known to follow cars with Kalifornia plates from gunstores near the border after watching people buying magazines. |
