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Chopprs
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can someone please explain to me what the deal is with the "Zombie" thing lately?
I see Zombie targets that leak Zombie blood when you shoot them and now even Zombie ammo.
I am thinking that if you had an incident where you had to shoot someone and had "Zombie Ammo" in your gun that it would not likely be viewed much in your favor by a jury.
I see no point.
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Bud
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it has to do with the recent movies and T.V. shows about werewolves, vampires, and zombies.
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Dinadan
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why does not someone market silver bullets. In a five shooter you could have the
last bullet silver. Just in case! Maybe in New Orleans I would load all chambers silver!
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Roguets1
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chops; I heard an explanation from somebody, cannot remember whom, that it could quite possibly be that with the indoctrinated younger generation coming up through the ranks being taught how politically incorrect it is to talk about, think about, make emergency plans etc concerning the possible use of deadly force on another human being they have subconsciously come up with targets and ideas that involve shooting/killing imaginary monsters and hence deemed more acceptable.

Somewhere somebody was complaining that authorities using silhouettes too closely resembled a human being, and now get this, a black human being and should not be used.

Hence those interested in shooting but indoctrinated come up with something they can use while still not being made to feel guilty considering their new pasttime.

Sounds kind of weird but this was an explanation I had heard and if you think about it; it kind of has a ring of possibility to it.
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Nakagawa
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I attend Michigan State university and there is a summer course worth two academic credits. The course is called "Surviving the zombie apocalypse". It is a social work course. The zombie craze has definitely made its foot hole in pop culture amongst my generation.

My military bud told me that the government does have a protocol for bioterrorism, he mentioned that in his class it was similar to that of the zombie apocalypse. Perhaps its a better safe than sorry mentality. I am sure the government has a protocol involving aliens.
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Redhawk4
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you seen the Hornady Zombie ammo range. It looks like it's in candy packages for kids or something, so then they have to put a big warning this is not a toy on it.
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Nakagawa
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^I have my Beretta Px4 and Guardian 380 loaded with the Hornady Zmax (zombie) round. The reason being, my range had no more Critical defense at the time, and this was all they had. Same price as the critical defense (actually a dollar cheaper if I remember correctly), as they are the same exact round, just a different color. The rounds themselves have all tested to be flawless.
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Therevjay
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think "Roguets1" pretty well nailed it."Killing" zombies isn't anti-social 'cuse they're already dead.

Also shooting zombies is just kinda fun.
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Gunr
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Especially with with both barrels of a double 12 ga.
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Chopprs
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

......so far no one has answered the question.
Is it simply that the young asshole/idiots have grown up and are now in charge of the ammunition companies?
It would not surprise me as the rest of the world seems to be governed by inane dipshits with no concern other than their video games and porn sites which would explain the obese and unathletic youngins we see around. It is obvious that the good looking girls are not attracted to them so they spank it on the internet and buy zombie bullets to put in their guns because they are beyond inept in their wisdom as well as their hormonal distribution which is in and of itself a savior of humanity......I am beyond disgusted!
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Louiethelump
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It takes a LOT to disgust you, too!!!

I am shocked...............
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Pogo
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SHOCKED! I tell you...

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Chopprs
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pogo, I asked a question. Something that I do not often do. I also do not often find myself in a place where I am not in possesion of the faculties to decipher an intelligent compass of a certain quandtry so I asked. The answers that I have recieved are ......well they are not an answer, so you heckle me? You are a dipshit!
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Dinadan
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chopprs - maybe I am a a d-----t too. Your question just struck me as a bit whimsical
when I read it. When I have voiced simular questions (in person) to a younger
generation, it has been suggested that if I were not a relic of a bygone millenium
then I would not need to ask the question.

By the way, i goes before e except after c! I never thought
I would see you complaining about being heckled! :-)
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Chopprs
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...you are talking about "RECIEVED"
I have been doing that here for like three years. You win the award! :-)
If you look at some of my posts they are riddled with quandry. You are the first to pick one of them out.....
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Dinadan
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chopprs - Well, if I am tackling your grammer I have to start somewhere. You know,
the journey of a milllion posts begins with a single keystroke, or something like that.
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Chopprs
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well sir, you are the first and as you said, it has to start somewhere so have some fun and look through my old posts. If you are gramatically amused you will find endless gratification in your trek! :-)
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Redhawk4
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I personally wasn't sure what the Hornady Zombie thing was about, a rather feeble and juvenile marketing attempt which I could not help plays into the hands of anti gunners. If we want to own guns we should at least appear to be a little grown up and mature.
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Chopprs
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well THANK YOU Redhawk!
That actually WAS my original statement and question........a juvenile scue on handgun ammunition is something that any mature person can not look on as a positive addition on our trek to maintain freedom! If we view it as a joke or comical it will most obviously be far easier for those that oppose us to make the point that we are not serious about protecting ourselves and the government would assuredly appear to be far more capable of said deed!
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Heyjoe
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

guys that would buy zombie ammo are the same ones that need to get out of the home office more often. walter mitty types.
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Nakagawa
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps the idea of zombies and anything to do with them is indeed what you say it is, juvenile. If so, then like many trends before, the hype will die down and it will be previous past reflection. Something that will be talked about in those shows on TV like "I love the 80s" when the time comes. For now though I can see your concern, desensitizing the need to shoot a human-like figure (whether undead or not) can be seen as problematic to the gun world, which none of us want nor need more of.

Though I feel as though there are far worse things providing a negative image to the gun world than the thought of zombies. School shootings, kids trading guns in school, parents and people not safely locking up guns when younger kids are around, etc. I feel as though zombies are the lesser of the group.

The youth aren't the only souls to blame though. I have seen many gun enthusiasts mentioning their zombie killing weapons, etc. etc. Gerber knives has a whole set of knives dedicated to zombies from the show "The Walking Dead." Old and young alike, to some extent, have pondered the thought together.

I have bought thee bozes of the zombie rounds. Not by choice. I asked at my LGS if they had any critical defense rounds and they were fresh out along with Speers, the two companies I usually go to. Then the salesman said we have these zombie rounds that are ezactly the same as CD, just a different color in stock. I didn't think much about it and said okay sure. Logic and moral reasoning told me its the same round just with a fancy or cheesy cardboard box around, besides its what counts on the inside. I remember laughing at the cover thinking really is this for real? Other than that, the box went into the garbage back at home and the rounds in my magazines and not a second thought was given to the zombie advertising.

Hornady Zombie rounds, when the box is thrown away (to become trash and nothing more), is exactly like any other bullet. High quality factory ammunition that will do its job when it must, whatever the job happens to be at the time. I saved a few dollars and have my CCW and defense guns now loaded with quality ammunition. Honestly, that is all I see from it. The boxes do look horrendous though I agree, my guess is that it was a Christmas stunt to boost ammunition sales for the holiday season. I agree that putting such a comical image to purchasing ammo for guns is prbly a no no and I would be surprised if Hornady does not see this in hind sight. Advertising will do a lot of things not many are fond of if they think it can make them that much more, even in the gun industry. As good as their ammunition has been for me, their advertising sector has become less and less appealing.

Perhaps I shall stick with the Speer ammo I originally have.

Sorry for the long post, just being probably on the younger side of the age group within our message board, I wanted to let you know that not all of us are immature idiots. ;)
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Roguets1
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chopper; I thought I answered your question. "Can someone please explain to me what the deal is with the "Zombie" thing lately?"

I gave it a shot.........
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22man
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can't expect him to spell and read in the same thread Roguets, it's very taxing, and as he stated the whole thread was an attempt at a 'statement' as much as question. Very potrosblancos esque.
Somebody take the KEYboard away from him, no drinking and surfing! :-)
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Chopprs
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 06:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roguets, I read your explanation. While it may make sense I am not thinking that is the reason. I think it is more marketing towards a younger crowd, I just think the whole thing is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
22man, you need to douche out your ears......I am quite capable of reading, writing and understanding the English language. It would have been quite diffiult to attain my Aeronauyical Engineering degree without these capabilities! :-)
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22man
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chopprs, If you think that a college degree is cover for blanket calling posters idiots and owners of ammo companies like Hornady masturbating a--hole obese dipsh--s, it isn't. In fact I love it when engineers miss the obvious such as I don't need to clean my EARS to read the forum. I do want to flush my EYES when I see you so often abuse well-meaning posters, but as long as you're entertained and gettin your
kicks, no problem-that's the forum we play in and you've
shown an inability to improve. Carry on calling female posters fat lesbians and fighting with potrosblancos, and I'll go back
to trying to ignore your posts. More power to ya and the
hyenas that root for ya.
We agree with the silliness and risk of Zombie bullets. Shame
your demeanor keeps me from callin you my conservative
Christian brother. Agree to disagree....
I hold no grudge against ya, life is to short, and I'm trying to do a better job keeping my hands and words clean before I meet my maker.
Peace out
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Westerly1965
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What was it my dad always said about engineers again.......oh yea I remember the quote "Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer and today I are one" of course in order for it to be funny you had to say it with the goofy accent. (Yes he was an engineer, yes he loathed engineers because many of them had the same exact attitude as Chops and he felt that it gave the whole profession a bad name....)
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Chopprs
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

.......you may all kneel and kiss the ring!!!!! :-)

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Westerly1965
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL
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Coinchop
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wifes half sister is married to an engineer and they made sure that was not ignored. About 3 years after we were married she sent my wife a letter telling her she could have done better than me. Every so often over the years when a bad day would pop up, I would remind wife that she could have done better so if things wern't perfect, was not my fault.
Have not heard from them for over 30 years, but I am sure they are still showing people boring pictures of things he did as an engineer.
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Chopprs
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

......agreed. Engineering is boring as hell and most Engineers are annoyingly preoccupied with something really stupid. I would much rather drink Jim Beam and mess with you guys......:-)
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Roguets1
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree it is marketing towards the younger generation, but as to why it is effective marketing to the younger generation can have to do with what I was saying I had heard. Maybe, maybe not but it has a ring of credibility as a possible reason for such. Zombies, vampires and werewolves are the in thing these days for the younger generation.
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Pogo
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And, you do a fine job there, me lad. Keep up the most EXcellent work.

After all, we all love you and aspire to emulate you.
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Chopprs
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 05:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

.....and you may kss the ring too!

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